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Back when I was doing my On the Gods and the World series, I ran face-first into a lot of things I didn't understand because I didn't have the right mental model to make sense of it. If others are interested in starting to study Neoplatonism, here are a few core concepts that I wish I had known from the get-go in order to make sense of what I was reading:

  1. There are two levels of reality relevant to us: the "intellectual" (e.g. the spiritual world, heaven) and the "sensible" (e.g. the material world, earth).

  2. The "intellectual" is something of a misnomer: it was so called because it refers to things apprehended by the mind rather than by the senses, but this should be understood as intuition or inspiration rather than as reason, as George Bernard Shaw says of Saint Joan:

    ROBERT DE BAUDRICOURT. What did you mean when you said that St. Catherine and St. Margaret talked to you every day?

    SAINT JOAN. They do.

    ROBERT. What are they like?

    JOAN (suddenly obstinate). I will tell you nothing about that: they have not given me leave.

    ROBERT. But you actually see them; and they talk to you just as I am talking to you?

    JOAN. No: it is quite different. I cannot tell you: you must not talk to me about my voices.

    ROBERT. How do you mean? Voices?

    JOAN. I hear voices telling me what to do. They come from God.

    ROBERT. They come from your imagination.

    JOAN. Of course. That is how the messages of God come to us.

  3. The intellectual is more real than the sensible, because it is eternal and unchanging, while the sensible is always in flux. The sensible may be thought of as the reflection of the intellectual, with matter being the mirror. Because it is a reflection of something eternal, the sensible as a whole is similarly eternal and cannot be said to have been created, even as the things within it are born and die.

  4. The gods are the native inhabitants of the intellectual, and there are many kinds of them, ranging from truly mighty to very minor. Animals and plants and minerals are the native inhabitants of the sensible. "Dæmons" live at the interface between the two. (In modern English, we generally call these "angels" if they live on the intellectual side and "spirits" if they live on the sensible side.)

  5. Humans have a sort of amphibious existence, possessing both an intellectual soul and a sensible body. The higher gods (e.g. the Olympians of the Greeks) do not possess a body at all. The lower gods (e.g. the sun and moon and planets) are amphibious like we are (though their souls and bodies are much greater than ours).

  6. The higher gods are impersonal and, indeed, so fundamental to existence that it is difficult to conceive of them as people. (They are more like "forces," though unlike our modern notion of forces, they are sentient—or, rather, super-sentient.) Personal gods, like the Athena of the Odyssey, are, properly speaking, dæmons.

  7. Since one is prior to many at every level of existence, there is, in fact, a highest god. (Various authors call it "the God" as opposed to "a god" or "the gods." Plotinus calls this god "Soul.") In this sense, Neoplatonism is both monotheistic and polytheistic.

  8. The intellectual is itself a being, of an even higher sort than the gods. (Porphyry calls it "the father of the gods.") There is, in fact, an even more fundamental reality than the intellectual, called "the One" or "the Good," but it is impossible to reason about and may only be experienced.

  9. The intellectual world is characterized by unity, while the sensible world is characterized by separation. Conflict between the gods is not possible, and it is silly to think that, e.g., there was a war between the Greek gods and the Christian god: to the Neoplatonists, the Greek gods gracefully gave way to the Christian god as times moved on.

  10. To the Neoplatonists, the Greek myths generally aren't literally talking about the gods at all. (Trying to find theology in Homer or Hesiod requires a lot of mental gymnastics.) Instead they're using mythic language to describe other phenomena. (For example, the myths of Hades and Persephone, or Aphrodite and Adonis, etc., are actually about human souls.)

Date: 2023-05-07 06:48 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] tunesmyth
Hi SDI,

Really very helpful! I hope this gets noticed somehow by people who need it. (Well, *I* noticed it, anyway!)

Would you be willing to expand on point 10? Or if it's something covered under any of your summaries of ancient works, point me to where you've written on it before?

Thank you!

Date: 2023-05-09 04:57 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] tunesmyth
Yes, that absolutely helps! You've made things very clear. So according to this point of view, then when people experience direct communications from the gods, then (in line with number 6 above), strictly speaking, those are actually daemons, albeit perhaps daemons in touch with those deities and incarnating/channelling their force?

You've written enough there that I cetainly wouldn't blame you for turning it into a proper post by itself. In fact, I hope that you do!

Re: Thank you!

Date: 2023-05-10 02:52 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] tunesmyth
Thank you, this is fascinating, and as someone with an active prayer practice with deities, interesting food for thought.

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