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Diogenes was fond of auditing Plato's lectures at the Academy, not so much as a student, but as a heckler. On one occasion, Plato was discoursing on the topic of the Ideas, discussing "tableness" and "cupness" and the like. Diogenes interrupted him and said, "But Plato! I can see a table and a cup, but I can't see 'tableness' and 'cupness.'"

Plato replied, "Well, while any given instance of an Idea is visible to the senses, the Idea itself is visible only to the intellect. So what you have said is natural enough, since while you have eyes, alas! you have no brain."

Third Eye

Sep. 2nd, 2023 10:21 am
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It is said, in fact, that having found the theory of ideas, [Plato] dreamt that he had a third eye.

(Anonymous, Prolegomena to Platonic Philosophy, as translated by L. G. Westerink)


Among the wisest of the Greeks there was a proverb that Plato had three eyes: one by which human, another by which natural, and a third by which divine concerns were surveyed by him, which last eye was in his forehead, the others being under it.

(Marsilio Ficino, Commentary on Plato's Philebus, as translated by Thomas Taylor)


Men and women range themselves into three classes or orders of intelligence. You can tell the lowest class by their habit of always talking about persons; the next by the fact that their habit is always to converse about things; the highest by their preference for the discussion of ideas.

(Henry Thomas Buckle, as quoted by Charles Stewart)


That there is a lot of modern occult discussion of a third eye in the middle of the forehead that can see divine things notwithstanding, it seems to me that Plato's three eyes are simply the sense-eye of the body, the reason-eye of the soul, and the intuition-eye of the Intellect.

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Sallustius' On the Gods and the World is often described, following Gilbert Murray, as a sort of creed or catechism of pagan faith. But did you know that Thomas Taylor—bless him, he's nearly as consistent as the stars themselves—penned a literal Platonist creed? He cribs from Sallustius here and there, but in the main it's Proclus all the way.

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So you know how I speculated that Mesopotamia, rather than Egypt, was the source of the Atlantis myth in Plato's Critias?

Well, I was chasing down a reference to Berossus—you know, the sort of thing everyone does on a Saturday morning—and found this in Seneca's Natural Questions III xxix (emphasis mine):

Berossus, the translator of [the records of] Belus, affirms that the whole issue [of the destruction of the world] is brought about by the course of the planets. So positive is he on the point that he assigns a definite date both for the conflagration and the deluge. All that the earth inherits will, he assures us, be consigned to flame when the planets, which now move in different orbits, all assemble in Cancer, so arranged in one row that a straight line may pass through their spheres. When the same gathering takes place in Capricorn, then we are in danger of the deluge. Midsummer is at present brought round by the former, midwinter by the latter. They are zodiacal signs of great power seeing that they are the determining influences in the two great changes of the year. I should myself quite admit causes of the kind. The destruction of the world will not be determined by a single reason.

This calls to mind a line from the Timaeus (which begins the story continued in the Critias, emphasis mine):

There have been and there will be many and divers destructions of mankind, of which the greatest are by fire and water, and lesser ones by countless other means. For in truth the story that is told in your country as well as ours, how once upon a time Phæthon, son of Helios, yoked his father's chariot, and, because he was unable to drive it along the course taken by his father, burnt up all that was upon the earth and himself perished by a thunderbolt,—that story, as it is told, has the fashion of a legend, but the truth of it lies in the occurrence of a shifting of the bodies in the heavens which move round the earth, and a destruction of the things on the earth by fierce fire, which recurs at long intervals. At such times all they that dwell on the mountains and in high and dry places suffer destruction more than those who dwell near to rivers or the sea; and in our case the Nile, our Saviour in other ways, saves us also at such times from this calamity by rising high. And when, on the other hand, the Gods purge the earth with a flood of waters, all the herdsmen and shepherds that are in the mountains are saved, but those in the cities of your land are swept into the sea by the streams.

Another point in favor of the hypothesis that Plato got his lore from Mesopotamia either instead of, or via, Egypt.

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We have dug up a whole mess of Mesopotamian texts describing ten legendary kings who lived before the great flood. You may have heard of a few of them: the first is Alulim, known to Judaism as Adam; the sixth is Dumizid the shepherd (consort of Inanna), known to the Greeks as Adonis (consort of Aphrodite); the seventh is Enmeduranki (in the Uruk List of Kings and Sages) or Euedoreschus (in Berossus), known to Judaism as Enoch and Islam as Idris; the tenth is Ziusudra or Utnapishtim, known to Judaism as Noah and to the Greeks as Deucalion.

A couple of these texts say the first seven of these kings were advised by seven sages, fish-men who came from the sea to teach the Mesopotamians all the arts of civilization. Alexander Polyhistor records that these sages would come and teach during the day, and then plunge back into the sea at night. These seven sages are named in several places, and the bit meseri (an Assyrian magic spell that is still extant) even tells us a little about them:

  1. Uanna, who completes the plans of heaven and earth
  2. Uannedugga, who is all-wise
  3. Enmedugga, who is given good fortune
  4. Enmegalamma, who is born in a house
  5. Enmebulugga, who grew up on pasture land
  6. Anenlilda, the wizard of Eridu
  7. Utuabzu, who ascended to heaven

I had researched all this a year or two ago. I thought this was an interesting and bizarre little legend, but what's really odd is how widespread it is: we see traces of it preserved in many different places against all odds. But why? Back then, I assumed it all had something to do with Atlantis: maybe this is a folk recollection of a seafaring civilization who came and taught the Mesopotamians the arts of civilization before a flood swallowed them up or whatever.

I was thinking about it again today, since I just read Plato's Critias (where he talks about Atlantis) and Critias lists the "ten kings" of Atlantis. (And yes, the names very roughly match the ten kings given elsewhere, so maybe Plato's legend comes from Mesopotamia, rather than Egypt as he claims.) But it struck me that these seven sages, who confer all knowledge on mankind, are merely the planets.

Consider that the seven planets are "fish-men" of a sort, being stars swimming in a sea of stars but being special among them, just as intelligent fish would be among normal fish. Just like Alexander Polyhistor records of the Sages, the planets spend half their time above the horizon and the other half beneath it.

Consider also the order in which the sages are given, compared to the Chaldean order of the planets. Saturn is the lord of limits ("completes the plans of heaven and earth"); Jupiter is the lord of wisdom ("all-wise"); Mars is successful ("given good fortune"). "Born in a house" is odd, but perhaps the translation I have is garbled; but while "grew up on pasture land" is similarly a little weird, Venus is known to have fallen for a shepherd. Calling Mercury, the lord of erudition and magic, a "wizard" is sensible enough; and certainly, as someone who is so often beckoned upward by the lovely Moon, saying that She "ascends to heaven" is no great stretch.

Consider also that these sages are invoked in magical spells and rituals, even at a supposed remove of hundreds of thousands of years—an impressive longevity for any being below a divinity.

Consider also that the legendary kings of Mesopotamia—at a minimum Dumuzid, Utnapishtim, and the post-flood Gilgamesh—serve not as historical personages but rather vehicles for spiritual lessons and mysteries: the mysteries of Dumuzid (later known to the Greeks via Adonis) and the legends of Gilgamesh (later known to the Greeks via Heracles) were stories about the descent and re-ascent of souls, and the former of these explicitly calls out the seven spheres of the planets in the process.

No, I think these antediluvian kings are mythic because they aren't mean to be real, rather they are didactic; and the sages are therefore the Seven who show us the way home if only we ask Them to. If I'm correct, then the widespread echoes of it are no surprise: Babylon exported its mysteries to all and sundry, but as the mysteries died, so did the keys unlocking them.

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I think I may have made an error in understanding Plotinus' system!

See, I had been assuming that the Intellect contains its Ideas, and that souls were the reflection of the Ideas upon the edge of that level of reality. But as I'm slowly digesting the Phædo, I think this may be an error. Plato seems to imply—and a cursory look over some of the most relevant passages of Plotinus at least does not seem to conflict with it—that the Ideas are, themselves, souls. (To put it another way, souls don't participate in Forms, rather they are Forms and therefore participate directly in the Intellect.)

Assuming as such, besides greatly simplifying the whole contraption, makes some of Plotinus' conclusions very explicit and obvious. Why is soul inherently divided? Because each Idea is inherently distinct. Why are all souls one? Because they spring from the same source—the Intellect—sharing in a small piece of it's great Life. Why are bodies many? Because they spring from many disparate sources. Why is each level of existence different? Because the One is one only; the Intellect is one containing many; souls are many ones (e.g. are indivisible at root); and bodies are many only (e.g. are infinitely divisible).

Going so far makes the Pythagoreanism latent in the system (e.g. Enneads VI vi) more obvious. The One is. The Intellect is the number one, itself unitary but containing all other numbers latent within it. (One is a number, but a weird one, being neither even nor odd, neither prime nor composite, etc.) The Ideas—souls—are each the expression of a particular number greater than one, primes being gods (since they are indivisible) and composites being lesser beings (since they are divisible, and inherently made up of the primes). (One wonders if the relation of a human to its dæmon is that of a multiple, containing exactly the same primes but compounded upon themselves.)

An example of how this helps is that it makes explicit what Plotinus was talking about when he said that bodies participate in Beauty, but not souls, since the beauty of a soul is wisdom (e.g. participation in the Intellect).

As I go back over Plotinus, I'll have to weigh this against other options. Certainly Proclus is no help here, since he is pretty happy to multiply entities in order to explain every different facet of the system—but the objections he is responding to are certainly real ones, so I'll have to pay attention to this as I go through him, too. I'm also starting to put together something of a reading list of Pythagorean texts—Plato's Timæus, Nichomachus' Introduction to Arithmetic, Pseudo-Iamblichus' Theology of Arithmetic, Taylor's Theoretic Arithmetic, etc.—I imagine studying those will be similarly illuminating in this regard.

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It was more than fifteen years ago that I entered the laboratory of Professor Agassiz, and told him I had enrolled my name in the scientific school as a student of natural history. [...] "When do you wish to begin?" he asked.

"Now," I replied.

This seemed to please him, and with an energetic "Very well," he reached from a shelf a huge jar of specimens in yellow alcohol.

"Take this fish," he said, "and look at it; we call it a Hæmulon; by and by I will ask what you have seen."

With that he left me. [...] In ten minutes I had seen all that could be seen in that fish, and started in search of the professor, who had, however, left the museum; [...] nothing was to be done but return to a steadfast gaze at my mute companion. Half an hour passed, an hour, another hour; the fish began to look loathsome. I turned it over and around; looked it in the face—ghastly; from behind, beneath, above, sideways, at a three-quarters view—just as ghastly. I was in despair; at an early hour, I concluded that lunch was necessary; so with infinite relief, the fish was carefully replaced in the jar, and for an hour I was free.

On my return, I learned that Professor Agassiz had been at the museum, but had gone and would not return for several hours. My fellow students were too busy to be disturbed by continued conversation. Slowly I drew forth that hideous fish, and with a feeling of desperation again looked at it. I might not use a magnifying glass; instruments of all kinds were interdicted. My two hands, my two eyes, and the fish; it seemed a most limited field. I pushed my fingers down its throat to see how sharp its teeth were. I began to count the scales in the different rows until I was convinced that that was nonsense. At last a happy thought struck me—I would draw the fish; and now with surprise I began to discover new features in the creature. Just then the professor returned. [...]

"Well, what is it like?"

He listened attentively to my brief rehearsal of the structure of parts whose names were still unknown to me; the fringed gill-arches and movable operculum; the pores of the head, fleshly lips, and lidless eyes; the lateral line, the spinous fin, and forked tail; the compressed and arched body. When I had finished, he waited as if expecting more, and then, with an air of disappointment:

"You have not looked very carefully; why," he continued, more earnestly, "you haven't seen one of the most conspicuous features of the animal, which is as plainly before your eyes as the fish itself. Look again; look again!" And he left me to my misery.

I was piqued; I was mortified. Still more of that wretched fish? But now I set myself to the task with a will, and discovered one new thing after another, until I saw how just the professor's criticism had been. The afternoon passed quickly, and when, towards its close, the professor inquired,

"Do you see it yet?"

"No," I replied. "I am certain I do not, but I see how little I saw before."

"That is next best," said he earnestly, "but I won't hear you now; put away your fish and go home; perhaps you will be ready with a better answer in the morning. I will examine you before you look at the fish."

This was disconcerting; not only must I think of my fish all night, studying, without the object before me, what this unknown but most visible feature might be, but also, without reviewing my new discoveries, I must give an exact account of them the next day. I had a bad memory; so I walked home by Charles River in a distracted state, with my two perplexities.

The cordial greeting from the professor the next morning was reassuring; here was a man who seemed to be quite as anxious as I that I should see for myself what he saw.

"Do you perhaps mean," I asked, "that the fish has symmetrical sides with paired organs?"

(Samuel H. Scudder; The Student, the Fish, and Agassiz)


[Socrates said,] "When I was young, Cebes, I had a prodigious desire to know that department of philosophy which is called the investigation of nature; to know the causes of things, and why a thing is and is created or destroyed appeared to me to be a lofty profession; and I was always agitating myself with the consideration of questions such as these:—Is the growth of animals the result of some decay which the hot and cold principle contracts, as some have said? Is the blood the element with which we think, or the air, or the fire? or perhaps nothing of the kind—but the brain may be the originating power of the perceptions of hearing and sight and smell, and memory and opinion may come from them, and science may be based on memory and opinion when they have attained fixity. And then I went on to examine the corruption of them, and then to the things of heaven and earth, and at last I concluded myself to be utterly and absolutely incapable of these enquiries, as I will satisfactorily prove to you. For I was fascinated by them to such a degree that my eyes grew blind to things which I had seemed to myself, and also to others, to know quite well; I forgot what I had before thought self-evident truths; e.g. such a fact as that the growth of man is the result of eating and drinking; for when by the digestion of food flesh is added to flesh and bone to bone, and whenever there is an aggregation of congenial elements, the lesser bulk becomes larger and the small man great."

(Plato, Phædo, as translated by Benjamin Jowett)


What Socrates here calls [the investigation of nature], is what the moderns call experimental [science]. The danger of directing the attention solely to this study is, as Socrates justly observes, truly great. For by speculating no other causes than such as are instrumental, and which are involved in the darkness of matter, the mental eye becomes at length incapable of beholding true and primary causes, the splendid principles of all things.

(Thomas Taylor's commentary on the above)


We might say that the Aristotle side of philosophy (e.g. natural history, science) teaches one to see the trees, while the Plato side of philosophy (e.g. metaphysics, theology) teaches one to see the forest. Neither is true—half of something can't be whole—but each is a remedy for the other.

Or, suppose we put it another way. It is easier to solve a maze working inwards from both ends than it is to solve it from either side alone; in the same way, should we not try to understand the world top-down (theology) and bottom-up (science), simultaneously?

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[Socrates is in prison, awaiting his imminent execution in the company of several of his closest friends. One of these said to him,] "Evenus, the poet, wanted to know why you, who never before wrote a line of poetry, now that you are in prison are turning Æsop’s fables into verse." [...]

[Socrates replied,] "In the course of my life I have often had intimations in dreams 'that I should compose music.' [...] And hitherto I had imagined that this was only intended to exhort and encourage me in the study of philosophy, which has been the pursuit of my life, and is the noblest and best of music. [...] But I was not certain of this; for the dream might have meant music in the popular sense of the word, and being under sentence of death, and the festival giving me a respite, I thought that it would be safer for me to satisfy the scruple, and, in obedience to the dream, to compose a few verses before I departed. And first I made a hymn in honor of the god of the festival, and then considering that a poet, if he is really to be a poet, should not only put together words, but should invent stories."

(Plato, Phædo, as translated by Benjamin Jowett)


Maybe it's a trifle, but I found it fun that in his last month that Socrates should turn from philosophizing to storytelling. Of the higher deities, both of these are the domain of Apollo; but of the lower, I should think that this is a shift from the Sun to the Moon. The Sun, after all, shines plainly, and philosophy is—at least ostensibly, and certainly to Socrates—the direct means of attempting to apprehend and communicate knowledge. But the Moon is a luminary as well: She shines, but with reflected light. And so storytelling is also a means, but an indirect one, of apprehending and communicating knowledge.

A Socrates would begin with a "wise" man and make him a "fool" using truths, so that his now-unclouded eyes could see clearly in the light. But a Scheherazade would begin with a fool and make him wise using lies, so that his now-beguiled eyes could navigate in the darkness.

Different means, but the same goal. I wondered that Socrates' friends thought such a thing so odd; but I suppose they all went and lamented his death even after he spent three hours telling them not to, so...

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I've been sick—on top of the last few weeks of bad summer allergies, I caught a pretty bad cold a few days ago—and since Proclus is pretty tough going at the best of times, I've been turning to Plato for light reading. (Yes. Yes, I know. I know. Shut up.) People have been reading Plato for a long time and for all that time they've had opinions on the best order to read his books in. (On the one side we have Thrasyllus, from ~100 BC, and Albinus, from ~AD 100; on the other side, the list I selected to work from was from a few years ago.) I started by reading them in such an order, but man oh man was it boring. The point of this is to be fun, right? So why waste time on pesky politics or ethics (or even Alcibiades, sweet treat though he was), when what I really care about is metaphysics?

So I gave up on the reading order (I'll get back to early dialogues eventually—maybe) and jumped right into the books that Plotinus references. So right now I'm reading the Phædo (a better title would be On the Immortality of the Soul) and I'm enjoying myself. It's good.

But that's not why I'm writing right now. While I'm reading a modern translation (Jowett's, as it happens), I of course have Thomas Taylor's copious notes to hand, and it is of little surprise to find gems in there. Since I just went back over Plotinus on Suicide, it was convenient (to use no stronger or more mystical term) to find a four-page long footnote containing Olympiodorus' and Taylor's thoughts on the same. Since it's interesting, I figured I'd transcribe it for you all:

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The next chapter of the Enneads is about Love, and in it, Plotinus repeatedly refers back to Diotima's discourse on Love, as quoted by Socrates, as quoted by Plato in the Symposium. I thought it worthwhile to quote it here (Benjamin Jowett's translation), since it seems a necessary prerequisite to that chapter, and it's be good to take some time to digest it before we get to Plotinus:

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(To be honest, I find quite a lot of fault with it. So, too, does Plotinus, and he goes to some length to distill the overarching principles from it.)

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In gratitude to the irresistible, all-connecting Mother of Necessity, I offer up a transcription of The Myth of Er excerpted from Book X of Plato's Republic. The main body of the text is from Benjamin Jowett's 1888 translation, but I have also collected Thomas Taylor's 1804 commentary (including his translation of Proclus' interesting and valuable commentary) on the text.

You can find the PDF in US Letter and A4 paper sizes.

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I've two transcriptions for you all today: Plato's (US Letter, A4) and Xenophon's (US Letter, A4) accounts of Socrates' trial. As always, these are in the public domain.

I was familiar with Plato's account but not Xenophon's, and given Xenophon's generally cool critical reception, I was surprised to find that he painted a, to my mind, much more mature, wise, and sympathetic picture of Socrates than Plato himself did.

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A question often pops up on [community profile] conjunctio as to who we are conversing with when we perform divination.

According to Plato's Symposium, Socrates believed it to be one's δαίμων (that is, genius, guardian spirit or angel, etc.): "From [the agency of genii] proceed all the arts of divination, and all the science of priests, with respect to sacrifices, initiations, incantations, and in short everything which relates to oracles and enchantments. The deity holds no direct intercourse with man; but, by this means, all the converse and communications between the gods and men, whether asleep or awake, takes place; and he who is wise in these things is a man particularly guided by his genius."

According to C. H. Josten, by contrast, Robert Fludd believed it to be one's mens (the unconscious mind or higher self) acting through the media of the anima intellectualis, intellectus, or ratio (the conscious mind or lower self), in the same way that a master exercises authority over servants: "The servant, in carrying out his master's command, does not know what the intentions and secret motives of his master are. [...] Mens in man is of the same essentia as mens divina. On a smaller scale (in virtute minori) mens humana may, therefore, perform the same actions as mens divina."

For my own part, I am quite convinced by my own mystical experiences that I am in communication with my guardian angel.